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The lecturer claims that, since Aristotle believed that that the universal cannot exist without the particular, he supported the individual over the collective, but that does not square with his writings. Aristotle wrote that men are political animals, and that the public life is more virtuous than the private life.
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The lecturer claims that, since Aristotle believed that that the universal cannot exist without the particular, he supported the individual over the collective, but that does not square with his writings. Aristotle wrote that men are political animals, and that the public life is more virtuous than the private life.

Nice observation, though I believe virtue within a person exists in public and private in equal measure. Virtue, like pregnancy, is something you have or you don't.

While I believe man is a herd animal, on a basic level, the individual is paramount when it comes to fulfillment and happiness. Collectives are never happy or fulfilled. Interaction may complete a person, but individualism is the end all be all. I am the only person who understands me and I'm the only one who travels the road of life with me. Therefore I am the only one who knows my particular needs and has any hope of meeting those needs. No collective can ever do for me that which I can do for myself, nor would it have an interest in doing so.

People go mad in groups and only regain sanity one by one. Maybe I'm weird, but I see danger in groups that is unnecessary and counterproductive. It's why I'm a loner of sorts. I'm in the 1-5 percentile in intellect, accomplishments and earnings, which kind of isolates me from the majority of people. Not that I'm against people, I just don't have much in common with the average Joe and Jane. The truth is, it's lonely at the top. (Smart people sound like crazy people to dumb people and it scares them.)

As I've matured, friends die off or move away and new friends become increasingly less easily met. I have a family and they are my world.
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Nice observation, though I believe virtue within a person exists in public and private in equal measure. Virtue, like pregnancy, is something you have or you don't.

While I believe man is a herd animal, on a basic level, the individual is paramount when it comes to fulfillment and happiness. Collectives are never happy or fulfilled. Interaction may complete a person, but individualism is the end all be all. I am the only person who understands me and I'm the only one who travels the road of life with me. Therefore I am the only one who knows my particular needs and has any hope of meeting those needs. No collective can ever do for me that which I can do for myself, nor would it have an interest in doing so.

People go mad in groups and only regain sanity one by one. Maybe I'm weird, but I see danger in groups that is unnecessary and counterproductive. It's why I'm a loner of sorts. I'm in the 1-5 percentile in intellect, accomplishments and earnings, which kind of isolates me from the majority of people. Not that I'm against people, I just don't have much in common with the average Joe and Jane. The truth is, it's lonely at the top. (Smart people sound like crazy people to dumb people and it scares them.)

As I've matured, friends die off or move away and new friends become increasingly less easily met. I have a family and they are my world.

Even as a loner, isn't it more fulfilling to use your intellect for the good of the collective (i.e. race) rather than merely to earn money, satisfy your intellectual curiosity, or stroke your ego? For example, did you create this website for individuaistic reasons or collectivistic reasons?
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Even as a loner, isn't it more fulfilling to use your intellect for the good of the collective (i.e. race) rather than merely to earn money, satisfy your intellectual curiosity, or stroke your ego? For example, did you create this website for individuaistic reasons or collectivistic reasons?

Yes, this site was created to disseminate truth and reality to those of my class who need it and want an outlet to express themselves. That is, thinking, white, productive people.

My ego used to be huge, but the more I know, the more I realize I need to know. Our "collective" is unique, not that large a group, but I believe ours is the creme de la creme.
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Yes, this site was created to disseminate truth and reality to those of my class who need it and want an outlet to express themselves. That is, thinking, white, productive people.

My ego used to be huge, but the more I know, the more I realize I need to know. Our "collective" is unique, not that large a group, but I believe ours is the creme de la creme.

I think of our collective as our entire race, not just the highy intelligent. We don't want a society composed only of Ph.D.'s; we need plumbers and janitors, too. We're also going to need fighters, too, and intellectuals don't make the best fighters, although we can design awsome weapons.
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I think of our collective as our entire race, not just the highy intelligent. We don't want a society composed only of Ph.D.'s; we need plumbers and janitors, too. We're also going to need fighters, too, and intellectuals don't make the best fighters, although we can design awsome weapons.

Only those smart enough to embrace our race are welcome in my dream world. Wiggers & mudsharks need not apply....
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Only those smart enough to embrace our race are welcome in my dream world. Wiggers & mudsharks need not apply....

I am unaware of any positive correlation between intelligence and racial loyalty. There are plenty of racially aware janitors and plumbers, and there are plenty of high-IQ men with Asian wives and girlfriends.
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