Morality without God?

Fred O'Malley · 06-17-2018, 08:52 PM

Michael Shermer vs. Ben Shapiro: Morality without God?

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Defiance · 06-17-2018, 11:00 PM

Atheists argue that any decent human being really shouldn't need to look to any book for basic morality. I agree fully. However, the problem arises when we try to define anything as universally, objectively moral or immoral. An atheist, in my opinion, would have to concede that as abhorrent as raping and murdering children seems to the typical human mind, it can't be called truly, objectively wrong. Rather, in a random and meaningless universe, such behavior is really no more unjust than a lion killing a zebra. This is one of my issues with atheism, among many.

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Defiance Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 876 Rep Power: 38	Re: Morality without God? Atheists argue that any decent human being really shouldn't need to look to any book for basic morality. I agree fully. However, the problem arises when we try to define anything as universally, objectively moral or immoral. An atheist, in my opinion, would have to concede that as abhorrent as raping and murdering children seems to the typical human mind, it can't be called truly, objectively wrong. Rather, in a random and meaningless universe, such behavior is really no more unjust than a lion killing a zebra. This is one of my issues with atheism, among many. 0 __________________ To new members: Due to this site's low membership count, actual discussion is generally not a practical option. Rather, the ideal method of contribution is probably to slowly and consistently save links to any materials which you find helpful or enlightening and return periodically to dump them. To lurkers: This is not a game. SHARE what you find on this site. Why I'm here Political images thread

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