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At American Renaissance, I was introduced to an old guy from VDare, who seemed to experience the world strictly through the search functions of his phone. Someone told him about my site and the first thing he did was search for the site name and “white nationalism” to see if I had opinions on the subject. His first hit was a post where I called white nationalism the dumbest thing going. He tried giving me the business about it and I gave it right back to him. I will forever be off the VDare Solstice card list as a result.

I don't know how the rest of you feel, but this makes a lot of sense to me.

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I don't know how the rest of you feel, but this makes a lot of sense to me.

Realistically, White Nationalism has been a counter-balancing force, and in that sense, an effective one in that the mere volume of its voice causes the left to shift more to the center.

I disagree that the movement has been ineffective, e.g. immigration, and the gloom and doom of the writer's (ZMan, as in Zimmerman?) diatribe seems more rooted in the lofty goals of Leftist idealism than reality.

For sure, White Nationalism has room for improvement in its image, but let's not forget who's primarily responsible for smearing its image: those like this writer.
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I believe the Nazi & Klan symbolism is a non-starter. I believe that's throwing up your own roadblock. To my way of thinking, activists should wear suits & ties, (Casual wear like Duke is okay too) and speak to higher ideals more than putting down others for their inability to even cultivate a similance of a civilization.

We should speak to the accomplishments of our people and the great things our kind has given to the world. We should reject the labels with simple statements of "I never did that," and laugh in their faces. You call me racist? I say so what? Everybody is racist, just that your side hates the wrong folks.

We need a more cerebral approach, less reactionary.
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I believe the Nazi & Klan symbolism is a non-starter. I believe that's throwing up your own roadblock. To my way of thinking, activists should wear suits & ties, (Casual wear like Duke is okay too) and speak to higher ideals more than putting down others for their inability to even cultivate a similance of a civilization.

We should speak to the accomplishments of our people and the great things our kind has given to the world. We should reject the labels with simple statements of "I never did that," and laugh in their faces. You call me racist? I say so what? Everybody is racist, just that your side hates the wrong folks.

We need a more cerebral approach, less reactionary.

I'm oft reminded when reading about 'White Nationalism' and 'White Nationalist events' in the main-stream-media how the Marxists highlight only the negative aspects of the movement. Not that it surprises me, after all, we are THE roadblock to their 'vision' of their version of a Utopian state.

White Nationalism is a narrowly-focused movement with a broad-based following, both good and bad. Making ourselves more palatable to an unawakened public means conforming to what the main-stream-media deems acceptable to them.

For sure, we should be cognizant of what is effective and what is not, all-the-while realizing that our enemy will never find anything acceptable other than their point-of-view.
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I'm saying our demeanor should make their lies and labeling as obvious as possible. I'd put a southerners humanity up against any yankee's in a heartbeat. All positive symbolism at our disposal should be employed as effectively as can be.

Like it or not, the yankee media has the floor, for now, and we must be cognizant of that fact. Nothing could ever cause me to adopt their twisted point of view.
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It's a good article for sure. Though the Third Reich did a good job of restoring Germany, it came up against severe opposition from Jewish sources who had it attacked by many nations. They simply do not allow power structures other than their own to rise and prosper.

While I've never been a sieg-heiling neo Nazi wearing WWII costume regalia, I realize Hitler and Hitler's Germany has been given a short shift so that now anything said in favor of it is instantly pounced upon. Hitler did bring a Jew ravished nation from the WWI back to prosperity, when Jews had scheduled it and the German people for decimation and to live under their yoke for eternity. They're now trying a new tactic for European destruction, flooding it with Arabs and Africans.

Our enemies create those like Craig Cobb, and perhaps Richard Spencer as bad examples of who and what we are and are about. When such bad examples are associated with the Pro White movement, it causes the majority of Whites to disavow their racial heritage and they attempt to virtue signal their conformity to the mass multicultural mode, which in the end, often comes back to bite them in soft and tender places.

I personally don't feel an absolute need to live in an all White region. What I do require is to be reasonably safe and secure where i do live. With the influx of Mexicans starting a few years back, we initially had a some who came with a gang banger attitude, stink eye and intimidation if we'd try to enter the post office, enroaches onto our property as if they were taking over, and even some with the audacity to come into businesses to inform us they were now the majority in California, and we Whites had better watch ourselves around them.

Well, that didn't sit well and I personally told those who told me things like that, they'd best watch themselves, because I was here minding my own business as I expected them to do as well, or they'd be fucking off back to Mexico in body bags.

Same at the post office. Stink eye and standing in the way of entry I responded with 'Do we have a problem here?' and didn't budge ground. They parted the waters and backed down. I saw them around the post office another time or two, then no more.

I'm proud of my ancestral heritage, as everyone should be. According to research, those who understand their heritage are healthier people. Yet there are those, who oppose anything White. I dress casually and decently, own a sport coat at time, which has shrunk recently, but that's another story. Am looking for another one I like.

We have to ask why.

Though we know the answer is their agenda to eliminate us.

From someone else I've just met thru a friend in common though I haven't looked at all the vids:
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“It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.”

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE [Embed]

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI [Embed]

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM [Embed]

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek [Embed]

Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs [Embed]

The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0 [Embed]

White Genocide is real - In their own words
>https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aec_1508296335

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA [Embed]

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg [Embed]

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ [Embed]

The Jewish role in the porn industry:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ [Embed]

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PL...P6IrYfIe&t=412 [Embed]

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I'm saying our demeanor should make their lies and labeling as obvious as possible. I'd put a southerners humanity up against any yankee's in a heartbeat. All positive symbolism at our disposal should be employed as effectively as can be.

Like it or not, the yankee media has the floor, for now, and we must be cognizant of that fact. Nothing could ever cause me to adopt their twisted point of view.

What you're saying, Fred, is one take away from Islam that has stood in my mind since I began studying it years ago. The idea that mankind is comprised of different races and peoples so that we can know each other, not hate each other. That doesn't mean we're supposed to date and mate, or live all intermingled.

It says we are in a competition to show who is the most righteous among us. Let me show everyone the ayat, here's a few translation of Quran 49:13:

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Sahih International: O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.

Pickthall: O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.

Yusuf Ali: O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).

Shakir: O you men! surely We have created you of a male and a female, and made you tribes and families that you may know each other; surely the most honorable of you with Allah is the one among you most careful (of his duty); surely Allah is Knowing, Aware.

Muhammad Sarwar: People, We have created you all male and female and have made you nations and tribes so that you would recognize each other. The most honorable among you in the sight of God is the most pious of you. God is All-knowing and All-aware.

Mohsin Khan: O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with Allah is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa [i.e. one of the Muttaqun (pious - see V.2:2). Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware.

Arberry: O mankind, We have created you male and female, and appointed you races and tribes, that you may know one another. Surely the noblest among you in the sight of God is the most godfearing of you. God is All-knowing, All-aware.

I don't think it's a 'Yankee' media' though, it's Jewish media, still I get your point.
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I'm saying our demeanor should make their lies and labeling as obvious as possible.

Oh, I agree, but to the extent we can have any control over that.

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I'd put a southerners humanity up against any yankee's in a heartbeat. All positive symbolism at our disposal should be employed as effectively as can be.

Again, agree... It's easy to take cheap-shots at the Southerners, but the fact is, if you're broken-down on the side of the highway, they would be the first to stop and help while the Yankees are whizzing by at 70 mph.

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Like it or not, the yankee media has the floor, for now, and we must be cognizant of that fact. Nothing could ever cause me to adopt their twisted point of view.

We can't bend to their will though, Fred. What we must do is dismantle their power, one step at a time.
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I believe the Nazi & Klan symbolism is a non-starter. I believe that's throwing up your own roadblock. To my way of thinking, activists should wear suits & ties, (Casual wear like Duke is okay too) and speak to higher ideals more than putting down others for their inability to even cultivate a similance of a civilization.

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