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Old 11-16-2013, 09:39 PM   #21
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Remember this: Individualists can work together collectively, on a voluntary basis. Collectivists are forbidden from working individually because the state holds the reigns of power by owning the means of production and distribution.

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I don't like collectivism in any form. NS Germany was a beautiful political philosophy, but its time to flourish has passed. It is no longer possible unless we can "purify the world."

In the above speech you'll notice that Goebbels says that National Socialism is not exportable. While I agree with him in a narrow sense that he is referring to "German National Socialism" and it cannot work in another country, which is 100% true.

But the essence of the ideology is pliable, meaning it can work in other countries. The Golden Dawn is a modern example of what National Socialism might look like in modern times. But what they're doing isn't "German" National Socialism, they shaped it for what they needed.

Also National Socialism isn't about "Collectivism", meaning the government doesn't own businesses. The people can still own land and businesses. All the government does is regulates economic policy.

The only exception to this would be them Nationalizing the banks. And surely, you understand why they would do this? The kikes have too often used the banks as a weapon to attack us.

An example of a way National Socialists might regulate the economy, is they would determine whether a business or enterprise is good for the Nation and its people.

Some examples of things that would certainly be illegal:

Porn studios

Loan shark businesses, or anything that profits from usury (unfair interest rates).

Temporary employment agencies (They skim money from the worker, and effectively lower labor costs just by being there).

Any media service or group, or business that pushes pro-fag, anti-White, Zionist, Commie, Marxist propaganda. Example - Mcdonalds and their "365 Black" campaign.


Things that would be allowed:

Any business that makes something or provides a service that doesn't fit the above category.

And of course, people get to own those businesses.


How "Nation building" could be applied by National Socialists to rebuild business and industrial infrastructure:

We are going to need to rebuild our manufacturing infrastructure, and there are a wide variety of products we're going to be in desperate need of. Instead of getting them all from China, and being a cash cow for these slant-eyed fucks, our government is going to invest in Americans making these products we need. Everything from pencils to tooth brushes and everything in between. All made right here in the USA. Anyone with the knowledge and skill, that provides a solid business model will get a 0% interest loan from the government to rebuild industry. As time goes on, the areas of enterprise that qualify for this will dwindle until we've become self sufficient again. During this massive reconstruction phase which will last for probably a decade, labor demand will be enormously high, and anyone with any sort of trade skill will be able to name their price.
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I could live with that, no doubt. But, that is simply enforcement of moral code and religious dictum. Can you not see that what you have stated above, while good for the community, is collectivist restraint based in christian mores? It is made for religious communities. It would be good for the people, but a good people can accomplish the same thing without a nanny type government. We in America are too far gone for that.
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I could live with that, no doubt. But, that is simply enforcement of moral code and religious dictum. Can you not see that what you have stated above, while good for the community, is collectivist restraint based in christian mores? It is made for religious communities. It would be good for the people, but a good people can accomplish the same thing without a nanny type government. We in America are too far gone for that.

This isn't even about Christianity. Or religion in general. Can you tolerate all the anti-White, Marxist, race-mixing, and pro-faggot bullshit being put up on the air ways? Have you ever wished for the opportunity to show these Commies what its like when the shoe is on the other foot? I know I want nothing more than to show them what its like when the shoe is on the other foot.

And Christians are pro-race mixing, and have been for centuries. In fact Christians are for quite a few of the things that would likely be stamped out. Whether some of the morals of society are congruent with Christianity or not, makes not a damn bit of difference to me. This is about our survival, fuck Christian teachings. I'd have a church stamped out the same way as I would a Communist organization if they stepped over the line.

Do you understand that in a Nationalist government, its required to make a moral stance against things like this? None of our kids are going to grow up feeling guilty about being White after being fed some Marxist drivel. That much is guaranteed. Nobody is going to grow up thinking its OK to have Black, Jewish, Asian friends, and race mix.

This is about preservation of the White race, and a government that serves that purpose. And not only preservation, but our success as a Nation. And success will be determined by not just financial success and standard of living.

What turns me away from Capitalism, is the entire system is as cut-throat as it can possibly be, which encourages dishonest practices in order to get ahead in the fiercely competitive system. Not all business owners are dishonest, but most of the most successful ones have been incredibly greedy and cut throat. Someone needs to step in and be the referee.

It is the government's responsibility to protect people from enemies both foreign and domestic. Whether those enemies wield the pen or the sword. And we both know the enemies that wield the pen are far more dangerous than the ones with swords.

Nothing about National Socialism deems everyone as being equal. Same as in a Capitalist society, you have to work and earn your place. Taxes would be a lot lower than you'd think because National Socialism isn't about egalitarianism. There would be a lot less social welfare programs than under the current government. National Socialists would prefer companies offer pension plans to their employees than having "Social Security".
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This isn't even about Christianity. Or religion in general. Can you tolerate all the anti-White, Marxist, race-mixing, and pro-faggot bullshit being put up on the air ways? Have you ever wished for the opportunity to show these Commies what its like when the shoe is on the other foot? I know I want nothing more than to show them what its like when the shoe is on the other foot.

Do you understand that in a Nationalist government, its required to make a moral stance against things like this? None of our kids are going to grow up feeling guilty about being White after being fed some Marxist drivel. That much is guaranteed. Nobody is going to grow up thinking its OK to have Black, Jewish, Asian friends, and race mix.

Religion might not be the stated purpose, but the effect is precisely the same.

I agree that anti-white issues are, in effect, a war against us and they must be outlawed.

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This is about preservation of the White race, and a government that serves that purpose. And not only preservation, but our success as a Nation. And success will be determined by not just financial success and standard of living.

We are living the result of kikes bringing niggers to this country in the first place. They have to go back to their lands of origin.

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What turns me away from Capitalism, is the entire system is as cut-throat as it can possibly be, which encourages dishonest practices in order to get ahead in the fiercely competitive system. Not all business owners are dishonest, but most of the most successful ones have been incredibly greedy and cut throat. Someone needs to step in and be the referee.

It is the government's responsibility to protect people from enemies both foreign and domestic. Whether those enemies wield the pen or the sword. And we both know the enemies that wield the pen are far more dangerous than the ones with swords.

You show a mistaken view of capitalism here. What you describe is crony capitalism, a jewish construct based on a compromised government. Take a look at the link I posted above, that is what real capitalism is about.
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Nothing about National Socialism deems everyone as being equal. Same as in a Capitalist society, you have to work and earn your place. Taxes would be a lot lower than you'd think because National Socialism isn't about egalitarianism. There would be a lot less social welfare programs than under the current government. National Socialists would prefer companies offer pension plans to their employees than having "Social Security".

I believe in individualism, you work or starve. Charity should be voluntary not compelled. The entire society and its government do far better when people HAVE to support themselves.

The reason for the welfare system in America, is so that the niggers can out-breed us and we have to pay for it. Another anti-white jewish construct.
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Heaven on Earth The Rise and Fall of Socialism


This is an excellent film that describes Socialism in great detail, its progress and failures, ultimately always ending in the collapse and death of subscribers and proponents. Socialism always ends in defeat for all. This is a MUST SEE film.

SKIP Part 2, it is about kikes.

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I agree with just about everything you are saying but there are many examples of where capitalism works to better our lives. It gives people the opportunity to better their lives through creating small businesses and in some cases the small business may become a larger business. People should always have the opportunity even under an NS system to achieve their goals as a way to better improve their lives and the economic security of the country!

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This isn't even about Christianity. Or religion in general. Can you tolerate all the anti-White, Marxist, race-mixing, and pro-faggot bullshit being put up on the air ways? Have you ever wished for the opportunity to show these Commies what its like when the shoe is on the other foot? I know I want nothing more than to show them what its like when the shoe is on the other foot.

And Christians are pro-race mixing, and have been for centuries. In fact Christians are for quite a few of the things that would likely be stamped out. Whether some of the morals of society are congruent with Christianity or not, makes not a damn bit of difference to me. This is about our survival, fuck Christian teachings. I'd have a church stamped out the same way as I would a Communist organization if they stepped over the line.

Do you understand that in a Nationalist government, its required to make a moral stance against things like this? None of our kids are going to grow up feeling guilty about being White after being fed some Marxist drivel. That much is guaranteed. Nobody is going to grow up thinking its OK to have Black, Jewish, Asian friends, and race mix.

This is about preservation of the White race, and a government that serves that purpose. And not only preservation, but our success as a Nation. And success will be determined by not just financial success and standard of living.

What turns me away from Capitalism, is the entire system is as cut-throat as it can possibly be, which encourages dishonest practices in order to get ahead in the fiercely competitive system. Not all business owners are dishonest, but most of the most successful ones have been incredibly greedy and cut throat. Someone needs to step in and be the referee.

It is the government's responsibility to protect people from enemies both foreign and domestic. Whether those enemies wield the pen or the sword. And we both know the enemies that wield the pen are far more dangerous than the ones with swords.

Nothing about National Socialism deems everyone as being equal. Same as in a Capitalist society, you have to work and earn your place. Taxes would be a lot lower than you'd think because National Socialism isn't about egalitarianism. There would be a lot less social welfare programs than under the current government. National Socialists would prefer companies offer pension plans to their employees than having "Social Security".

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I would seriously like to see us build an organization, a party, a structure that can achieve our goals. It is way past time to just talk and not follow it up with action.

To achieve what Crowe and Fred are discussing we must think and adapt to what Golden Dawn, Jobbik, BNP, Britain First and National Front are doing.

We have to build politically, have a strong street presence and offer social solidarity to help those in need who are like minded but sitting on the fence!
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Nationalizing the banks would be mandatory! We also need to wipe out the credit score systems and give everyone a fresh start. We need to think about a lot of things. Like perhaps getting a little more serious on the border.. I almost think we need someone like Arkan to handle the border "their way" and we need to raid construction sites and restaurants and close them down if they have illegal labor. I know of a guy who employs over 80 siders and they're all illegal. Takes good jobs from American workers and also makes it harder to win jobs against those companies and contractors.

Employing an illegal should be a death penalty offense!
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And like said before we do need to punish and shut down the porn industry. Perhaps first by imposing a high tax on their smut but in reality we need to put porn star types in prison and execute porn industry executives, directors and smut peddlers. We can seize their camera and production studio equipment to use in our media centers. Easy prey! These are nasty vile scum polluting our society with filth, degradation and destroying families and children!
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