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  • Simon Belmont
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 443

    Analysis of an interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

    It's a featured comment right at the end of a long article I haven't read much yet. Control + f and then type "featured" to find it.

    Pungspark

    I can't read stormfront because it's populated with too many retards. The problem with a far-right ideology in the modern era is that it's directly opposed to the dominant culture. It's outside the bounds of decency according to society and government, and this is the very reason it attracts people with personality disorders or literal mental illness.
    Because of their mental problems, they're more likely to be contrarian, simply for the sake of disagreeing with what is perceived as popular opinion. This is also the reason you see so many of these individuals fighting with other right-wing pro-White people constantly. There is an irrational conflict within them, and they bring that irrationality and conflict into the outside world and infect otherwise well intentioned people with their negativity and stupidity.

    We cannot heal their irrational thought patterns, but we can learn to spot them. They typically lack a sense of humor. They get overly emotional and take things personally. They have all or nothing thinking. They tend to focus on the negative and disqualify the positive, as if they are perennial victims. And many of them have no idea they have personality disorders or low IQ's, and they're likely to deny it even if they do know.


    http://www.dailystormer.com/russia-and-the-moslems/
  • Fred O'Malley
    I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
    • Apr 2013
    • 173320

    #2
    Re: Interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

    He has a point, but wrong about a few things.

    I can't read stormfront because it's populated with too many retards.
    I can't argue with that, but there are some intelligent and spirited members there. Too bad you can't say the same of their mods/admin crew.

    The problem with a far-right ideology in the modern era is that it's directly opposed to the dominant culture.
    He's wrong here, each individual has his or her own culture, mores and beliefs. NO TWO PEOPLE ARE THE SAME, and to shoe-horn them is a fool's errand that can never work. That's precisely why multiculturalism will never work.

    It's outside the bounds of decency according to society and government,
    Collectivism is poison to the soul and mind of the individual, and no matter how hard you try to conglomerate humanity, we are each individuals after all. Conforming to society and especially government, is pure idiocy. If an individual wants to be a conformist, he can, but his life will be meaningless and of no value to anyone, including him.

    and this is the very reason it attracts people with personality disorders or literal mental illness.
    People who refuse to conform always seem to have a personality disorder to conformists, because they are cowards who refuse to think and act for themselves. It's your world, it belongs to you, allow another person or group to rule your thoughts and you might as well be a slave, there is no difference.
    Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
    Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
    “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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    • Fred O'Malley
      I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
      • Apr 2013
      • 173320

      #3
      Re: Interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

      Non-conformity has a price, but it's a far smaller price than the soul crushing burden of conformity.

      The ancient Greek philosopher Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous information in the first place. Not surprisingly, this type of teaching didn't sit well with the ruling elite of Greece. Many political leaders throughout history have always sought to mislead the thinking of the masses. Socrates was tried for "subversion" and for "corrupting the youth". He was then forced to take his own life by drinking poison. It's never easy being an independent thinker!
      http://iamthewitness.com/books/Alber...eningStatement
      Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
      Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
      “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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      • Fred O'Malley
        I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
        • Apr 2013
        • 173320

        #4
        Re: Interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

        1) We cannot heal their irrational thought patterns, but we can learn to spot them. They typically lack a sense of humor.

        2) They get overly emotional and take things personally.

        3) They have all or nothing thinking.

        4) They tend to focus on the negative and disqualify the positive, as if they are perennial victims.

        5) And many of them have no idea they have personality disorders or low IQ's, and they're likely to deny it even if they do know.
        http://www.dailystormer.com/russia-and-the-moslems/
        1) If someone is of a different opinion than you, that doesn't make them wrong. Serious people at the time they are most serious will seem mirthless, at that time.

        2) Frustration, which arises when a non-conformist meets a conformist can enrage even the most patient among us. Conformity is an exasperating thing to a free thinker.

        3) When you've put in the work to fully inform yourself about a subject you believe to be of utmost importance, and you are shown the defiant ill-logic of an non-thinking conformist who thinks with the mind of a slave to the power elite, thinkers tend to draw a line in the sand and defend it.

        4) I believe that is mere perception, based in losing the fight to facts and evidence. I believe it is a mask of superiority worn by one in an inferior position. A drowning man clutching at straws.

        5) This guy wouldn't know a personality disorder if it bit him on the ass. Conformists are cowards, afraid to think outside the prevailing group-think. They are the epitome of mental illness. Afraid of opinions based in abstract thinking and deduction. Afraid to swim against the tide, regardless of the sheer stupidity of commonly held beliefs, particularly where society and government are concerned. Afraid they might be held in contempt by all the other morons.

        The power to fit in with one's social peers can be irresistible. To a human lemming, the logic behind an opinion doesn't count as much as the power and popularity behind an opinion. Man, like lemming, behaves collectively. And it could be no other way. Naturally, the individual must be equipped with this trait. Otherwise, the smallest steps toward civilization could never have been made. Lemminghood is a survival trait, an inborn instinct in the majority of people. However, as with all natural phenomena, this tendency can be manipulated and used for harmful purposes. It is this lemming effect which enables entire segments of a society to lose their sense of judgment all at the same time.

        For lemmings, denial is a basic psychological defense mechanism used to not only shield themselves from unpleasant realities,but also to reassure themselves that they will still fit within the acceptable range of opinion held by their peer group. Lemmings are absolutely terrified at the thought of being labeled as an "extremist" or a "conspiracy theorist". At all costs, their beliefs must always be on the “right” side of the issue and conform within the boundaries of their lemming peers. Lemmings simply cannot bear the burden of responsibility, or the social discomfort, which comes with thinking independently. They will resist any efforts to change their misguided beliefs with all their mental energy. We can try to open their closed minds and free them from their self-imposed blindness, but it’s not easy fighting the force of human nature. The chains of ideological conformity have too strong of a grip, and breaking them is a difficult task. With the limited resources at our disposal, it is next to impossible to compete with the media lemming-masters. The lie of the emperor is always believed before the truth of the peasant.
        http://iamthewitness.com/books/Alber...eningStatement
        Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
        Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
        “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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        • Fred O'Malley
          I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
          • Apr 2013
          • 173320

          #5
          Re: Interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

          Bump, so members/lurkers can spot these kinds of assholes.
          Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
          Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
          “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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          • Simon Belmont
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 443

            #6
            Re: Interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

            Originally posted by Fred O'Malley View Post
            Non-conformity has a price, but it's a far smaller price than the soul crushing burden of conformity.

            Quote:
            The ancient Greek philosopher Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous information in the first place. Not surprisingly, this type of teaching didn't sit well with the ruling elite of Greece. Many political leaders throughout history have always sought to mislead the thinking of the masses. Socrates was tried for "subversion" and for "corrupting the youth". He was then forced to take his own life by drinking poison. It's never easy being an independent thinker!
            http://iamthewitness.com/books/Alber...eningStatement
            Awsome Socrates quote!

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            • Simon Belmont
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 443

              #7
              Re: Interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

              Originally posted by Fred O'Malley View Post
              He has a point, but wrong about a few things.

              I can't argue with that, but there are some intelligent and spirited members there. Too bad you can't say the same of their mods/admin crew.

              He's wrong here, each individual has his or her own culture, mores and beliefs. NO TWO PEOPLE ARE THE SAME, and to shoe-horn them is a fool's errand that can never work. That's precisely why multiculturalism will never work.

              Collectivism is poison to the soul and mind of the individual, and no matter how hard you try to conglomerate humanity, we are each individuals after all. Conforming to society and especially government, is pure idiocy. If an individual wants to be a conformist, he can, but his life will be meaningless and of no value to anyone, including him.

              People who refuse to conform always seem to have a personality disorder to conformists, because they are cowards who refuse to think and act for themselves. It's your world, it belongs to you, allow another person or group to rule your thoughts and you might as well be a slave, there is no difference.
              Well regards to the "far right" it reminds me of the Labor party in Australia. You can have a "left faction" (I suppose that means the far left/communist Labor politicians) and you can have the "right faction" which is closer to Liberal Party (which is a conservative party like the one in Britain.)

              I don't know about conformity. Sometimes it works really well other times not. I think White people are too individualistic. Even with Blacks and their funeral funds in that video you showed me where they bounded together so they could achieve their purpose. They were Baptists like a lot of Whites in the south of your country. I never see Whites have their own funeral funds to use that example. People would say it would be "demonized as racist," but I also think there's not enough organized Whites getting together and demanding White organizations. That's why people like Andrew Anglin or Matthew Heimbach are good because they actually get people organized.

              I agree with you on Stormfront having intelligent posters. I still "eavesdrop" on there and see what people say like Tenniel, Southern Cornbread and Bellatrix (?) seem like reasonable people. That's why it's good to have an Aussie Stormfront, British one where people have their own "Stormfront" ideas and that's how people maintain their individualism or "keeping it local."

              Or if you mean "one man band" independent, that's why Andrew quotes Kevin McDonald of the Occidental Observer and the various contributors of Vdare.

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              • Simon Belmont
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 443

                #8
                Re: Analysis of an interesting comment about SF on Dailystormer

                And yeah I see value in the individual. David Duke being elected twice in Louisiana. I think he's a good example (despite being on Stormfront) who's very much his own man. He is on Stormfront but is yet independent. Like writing editorials for a newspaper.

                That's how I see things, value in collectivism and the individual.

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