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  • Fred O'Malley
    I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
    • Apr 2013
    • 173578

    #31
    While I admire Glenn's courage in facing consequences that threaten his life, I find that in the absence of anything genuine to gain by it, it was a fool's errand.

    If anyone has any similar ideas, they should consider the final tally on the balance sheet. Quid Pro Quo isn't enough, as stated above, don't throw a rock at a hornet's nest if you don't intend to use a flamethrower on them as they emerge.

    I think Will's suicide by cop analysis is accurate. Bad idea, all said and done. The citizen militia at Bundy Ranch was much more effective at a far lower price. I would like to see more of that kind of confrontation in the future.

    We all know that the arrogance and hysterical self-importance of the feds won't allow them to taste humble pie, so that encounter is far from over. The feds will just change tactics and try again. Their theft knows no bounds.
    Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
    Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
    “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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    • Pale Horse
      Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 96

      #32
      There is NOTHING courageous about what Glenn Miller did, he killed 3 white Christians, one of them was a 14 yr old boy. Miller is a fucking sociopath. I hope he gets the fucking chair. Murder is NOT what White Nationalism is about, especially if the murder was committed against fellow whites by some nut job hick claiming to be a White Nationalist.

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      • Randolph Dilloway
        • Jun 2013
        • 1849

        #33
        The latest from the Associated Press -
        Kansas shooting suspect had no record of violence
        Published: Monday, April 14, 2014 at 4:03 p.m.


        Originally posted by Will Williams View Post
        Marge, Glenn's wife, told someone that he called her from the casino, drunk, but gave no indication he'd soon be going on a very poorly planned shooting spree.


        Defiant Frazier Glenn Miller, up against the wall

        Glenn has been ill with rather severe respiratory problems lately. Sounds like a typical SBC (Suicide By Cop) scenario that failed. We haven't heard the last from FGM since he survived and henceforth will be sober.

        Glenn has always said that half of what he has learned about the enemy he learned from Dr. Pierce. It's too bad he didn't learn much of the other half of Dr. Pierce's absolutely sober teachings, like this, quoted in Fred's other WN post on this subject:

        [WLP:]
        Can you imagine our enemies acting in such an immature and undisciplined way?...The reason America’s internal enemies are winning now is because they not only use their heads to make plans, but they also exercise self-discipline. They keep their feelings under control...Random acts of violence don’t make sense now. Temper tantrums are not helpful. What we need now is self-discipline, not self-indulgence. It’s good for us to remember now the old, old rule for people who want to get rid of a king. The rule is: kill the king with your first stroke; don’t merely wound the king, because if you do he surely will kill you.

        Lesson Learned #1.

        Lesson #2: Alcohol and WN do not mix.

        The only thing that I can say is that Glenn was not in his right mind. He was one of the few men I have had the pleasure to talk with who really cared for our White race. A tragedy.

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        • Pale Horse
          Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 96

          #34
          How on Earth could he possibly care for our race, when he killed 3 whites? How the hell is that pro white? Making PLEs and living peacefully with your own is pro white, speaking out against our genocide is pro white. Murder is NOT pro white, Glenn Miller is a nigger as far as I'm concerned, and I hope he get's the fucking chair.

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          • Randolph Dilloway
            • Jun 2013
            • 1849

            #35
            Originally posted by Pale Horse View Post
            There is NOTHING courageous about what Glenn Miller did......Miller is a fucking sociopath. I hope he gets the fucking chair. Murder is NOT what White Nationalism is about, especially if the murder was committed against fellow whites by some nut job hick claiming to be a White Nationalist.
            I don't think anyone will defend what Glenn did. Glenn is neither a sociopath nor a nut job. I cannot explain it, but somehow the alcohol and what he was thinking at the time just did not mix yesterday afternoon.

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            • Pale Horse
              Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 96

              #36
              Originally posted by Smoky View Post
              I don't think anyone will defend what Glenn did. Glenn is neither a sociopath nor a nut job. I cannot explain it, but somehow the alcohol and what he was thinking at the time just did not mix yesterday afternoon.
              Let me put it this way, ANYONE, white or nigger, who murders a 14 yr old white boy, and DESTROYED his future, and murdered 2 other whites, destroying 2 white families, is a not only a sociopath, not only a nut job, they're a piece of old nigger shit covered in mestizo puke.

              I became a white nationalist thanks to David Duke's non violent educational message, I LEARNED from him. Now imagine if my 1st exposure to white nationalism was hearing about Glenn Miller killing 3 innocent white Christians in cold blood, do you think I would have become a white nationalist then? This guy not only robbed 3 innocent whites of their lives, he most likely made THOUSANDS of more anti-fas. Glenn Miller is a nigger, he's the whitest nigger on earth. He hope he gets the firing squad, so he can FEEL what he put those white families through.

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              • Randolph Dilloway
                • Jun 2013
                • 1849

                #37
                Originally posted by Pale Horse View Post
                Let me put it this way, ANYONE, white or nigger, who murders a 14 yr old white boy, and DESTROYED his future, and murdered 2 other whites, destroying 2 white families, is a not only a sociopath, not only a nut job, they're a piece of old nigger shit covered in mestizo puke.
                Give it a rest. According to the news reports Glenn asked each person if they were Jewish or not before shooting them. The dumbass Whites who got shot were the ones who said yes in Yiddish (start at the 2-minute mark)

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmIjbOrWuG4

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                • Pale Horse
                  Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 96

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Smoky View Post
                  Give it a rest. According to the news reports Glenn asked each person if they were Jewish or not before shooting them. The dumbass Whites who got shot were the ones who said yes in Yiddish (start at the 2-minute mark)

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmIjbOrWuG4
                  You're telling me white Christians sacrificed themselves for the Jews, and lied about being Jewish? WTF?

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                  • Randolph Dilloway
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 1849

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Pale Horse View Post
                    You're telling me white Christians sacrificed themselves for the Jews, and lied about being Jewish? WTF?
                    I did not say that.

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                    • Randolph Dilloway
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1849

                      #40
                      Overland Park shootings reverberate in Germany

                      April 14

                      By MATTHEW SCHOFIELD

                      McClatchy Newspapers

                      Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/04/14...#storylink=cpy

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                      • L. H. Menkkken
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1094

                        #41
                        Is there proof that any shootings actually happened? That there are any real deaths?

                        What MSM says is not proof. What info is available from non-establishment sources?

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                        • Randolph Dilloway
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 1849

                          #42
                          There is even an article in CNN's religion section on Rounder:

                          http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/0...cist-religion/

                          For decades, the 73-year-old has espoused anti-Semitism. He has founded racist groups like a branch of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Both those groups have deep ties to Christian white supremacists.

                          But according to Cross' 1999 biography, he is an adherent of Odinism, a neo-pagan religion that experts say has become one of the most vicious strains in the neo-Nazi movement.

                          "When the race war comes to America, I pray to Odin, that He provide our Southland with many more such as these," Cross writes in "A White Man Speaks Out," his autobiography.

                          He continues:


                          I'd love to see North America's 100 million Aryan Christians convert to the religion invented by their own race and practiced for a thousand generations before the Jews thought up Christianity.

                          Odinism! This was the religion for a strong heroic people, the Germanic people, from whose loins we all descended, be we German, English, Scott, Irish, or Scandinavian, in whole or in part.

                          Odin! Odin! Odin! Was the battle cry of our ancestors; their light eyes ablaze with the glare of the predator, as they swept over and conquered the decadent multi-racial Roman Empire.

                          And Valhalla does not accept Negroes. There's a sign over the pearly gates there which reads, "Whites only."

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                          • Randolph Dilloway
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1849

                            #43
                            Originally posted by L. H. Menkkken View Post
                            Is there proof that any shootings actually happened? That there are any real deaths?

                            What MSM says is not proof. What info is available from non-establishment sources?
                            If you want to find out, just write Glenn a letter.


                            http://www.jocosheriff.org/index.aspx?page=57

                            NAME: FRAZIER GLENN CROSS
                            CRIMINAL FILE NUMBER: 181824
                            DOB: 11-23-1940 RACE: W SEX: M


                            DETENTION CENTER LOCATION

                            101 N. KANSAS AVE - OLATHE


                            VISITATION TIMES

                            SAT: 09:00 AM - 09:55 AM
                            SUN: 07:00 PM - 07:55 PM


                            BOOKING DATE: 04/13/14


                            Mail Rules

                            NOTIFICATION OF CHANGE IN INMATE MAIL PROCEDURES
                            EFFECTIVE 11/01/2013 To expand the safety and security of the Johnson County Adult Detention Centers for the inmates and staff, the following changes are being implemented to the way in which we handle inmate mail.

                            Incoming Non-Privileged mail may be accepted in postcard OR letter form. All Non-Privileged Mail in letter form will be opened and inspected for contraband by authorized personnel. Non-Privileged Mail will also be inspected for prohibited content and for any restricted material.


                            ◾Letters/Postcards will be addressed with the return address clearly readable or they will not be accepted.
                            ◾Letters/Postcards will have stamps removed and discarded prior to delivery to the inmate.
                            ◾No plastic/wrappings, labels or stickers on letters/postcards.
                            ◾No letters/postcards with watermarks, stains, biohazards (including lipsticks or perfumes) will be accepted.
                            ◾No letters/postcards depicting sexually explicit material, weapons, alcohol, or gang reference will be accepted.



                            Letters/postcards will be rejected, returned to sender or seized as evidence only if there is credible evidence showing the letter contains one or more of the following:


                            ◾Plans for sending contraband into or out of the Detention Center.
                            ◾Plans for criminal activity.
                            ◾Instructions for the manufacturing of weapons, alcoholic beverages, drugs, and drug paraphernalia.
                            ◾Threatened blackmail or extortion.
                            ◾Plans for escape or unauthorized entry.
                            ◾Plans for activities in violation of Detention Center rules.
                            ◾Sexually explicit, nudity, weapons, alcohol, or gang related material.
                            ◾Information which if communicated would create a serious danger of violence, physical harm to a human being, or the order and security of the detention centers.



                            Should correspondence be totally or partially rejected, a written notice stating the reason(s) for rejection shall be provided to the inmate.
                            ◦Mailing Address: All inmate mail is to be mailed to this facility for processing ◾Inmates Name
                            Johnson County Adult Detention Center
                            101 N. Kansas Ave.
                            Olathe, KS 66061

                            1.Legal mail (privileged mail) is considered incoming mail from an inmates's attorney of record. All legal mail must be unchanged and clearly marked to be considered privileged mail.
                            2.Newspapers or Magazines ◦Prior approval from the Classification supervisor or their designee is necessary for Newspapers or Magazines.
                            ◦Due to contraband concerns, publication inserts shall be removed prior to delivery to the inmate.
                            ◦Newspapers and Magazines must be sent from the publisher and can be denied if found to threaten the safety or security of the facility.

                            3.Packages are still not accepted without prior approval. The definition of a package is any item requiring postage more than the cost of a first class stamp.

                            * If you have any questions concerning the mail procedures please call 913-715-5900. An inmate will need to have an ICF approved for any deviations to this notice to include money and photographs.

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                            • Randolph Dilloway
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1849

                              #44
                              Originally Posted by Rob in La. View Post
                              I have spoken with a few people I know that are friends of Miller. They said that Miller who is terminally ill had been obsessing greatly about his own death over the past year. To the point where he had moved much of his possessions into the names of his children. Also that he had gone off of his anti depression medication and had been drinking very heavily.

                              In my opinion. I think a better approach to this situation is to instead of debating Glenn Millers history and affiliations is to recognize this for what it actually is. A terminally ill and clinically depressed old man who in a state of drunkenness had a mental meltdown and went on a shooting spree. One that is in no way, shape, or form associated with or perpetrated by any faction of the White Nationalist movement.
                              Here is another plausible explanation for Rounder's actions yesterday - going off anti-depression medication.

                              Again, I am not defending what occurred yesterday, just having a difficult time trying to understand why Rounder did what he did, especially when he has never acted violently before.

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                              • Todd in FL
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 467

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Smoky View Post
                                Here is another plausible explanation for Rounder's actions yesterday - going off anti-depression medication.

                                Again, I am not defending what occurred yesterday, just having a difficult time trying to understand why Rounder did what he did, especially when he has never acted violently before.
                                Link?
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