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  • Fred O'Malley
    I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
    • Apr 2013
    • 173384

    A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism - The Horrors of Collectivism (Freedom or Leftism?)

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

    The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

    The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

    As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

    To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that.

    These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:
    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

    2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

    3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

    4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

    5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
    Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
    Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
    “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight
  • Reaper
    Member
    • May 2017
    • 43

    #2
    Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

    That is why National Socialism inspired by Racial Pride and Nationalist sentiment is the only answer. We must put in the work to reap the rewards.

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    • Fred O'Malley
      I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
      • Apr 2013
      • 173384

      #3
      Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

      There are too many out to subvert, infiltrate and destroy NS. It is a project without legs. Also, any form of socialism which doesn't include free markets and voluntary support for those less able is destined to fail. True adherents of NS don't need to be compelled to support their racial siblings. Force is the downfall of all governmental structures. Governments of every stripe will murder us all to stay in power, but I firmly believe all central power structures are destined to fail in the long run because they all become corrupted beyond all recognition. In 100 years, governments will be very small, if they exist at all.

      I'm AnCap, AnarcoCapitalist, because capitalism is the only thing that works for everybody, and government is wholly unnecessary/counterproductive. Everyone deserves a chance to attain the highest goals his ability and diligence can achieve.

      Do Not confuse capitalism with crony capitalism, this link tells you what true capitalism really means, without the leftist propaganda. http://capitalism.org/capitalism-tour/
      Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
      Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
      “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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      • Fred O'Malley
        I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
        • Apr 2013
        • 173384

        #4
        Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

        I know how hard it is to see things in a way that tears down things you thought were true. That's cognitive dissonance, and recovery from it is painful.

        I forget who said it, but I believe it was Sam Adams: "Whatever the cost in psychological damage and sleepless nights, I'll pay it to know the truth." (paraphrased)
        Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
        Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
        “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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        • Reaper
          Member
          • May 2017
          • 43

          #5
          Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

          Ah but National Socialism based on racial substructure can work. Hitlers Germany is a perfect example. A Nationalistic sense of pride that motivates one to help contribute for the greater good. Each task job, etc that needs doing is assigned to the individual or group who is most fit for the task. But with a total allowance for personal excellence. Even a rewards system based on achieving goals. We desire to rise and so we shall as long as Our Race can put forth the work. But the most important part is the idea that responsibly is imparted to the individual. Responsibly and accountability. Consequences or rewards pending success or failure. While at the same time creating order and structure. As much as you have to contribute you can also expect in a return so to speak. Always a nice to chat with you Fred 88

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          • Fred O'Malley
            I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
            • Apr 2013
            • 173384

            #6
            Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

            Collectivism has never worked, even in NS Germany. The jews arranged forces against them and any NS society would again be crushed from outside.

            Gov't is force, and the only form of gov't that works is NO GOV'T AT ALL. People don't need any governing, all functions can be handled on a local level by the people themselves.
            Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
            Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
            “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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            • Reaper
              Member
              • May 2017
              • 43

              #7
              Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

              But this only promotes social parasites and predators. Chaos promotes the strong to prey on the weak. And the talents and abilities of both are squandered. National Socialism allows all of Our grwat Aryan traits to be utilized in the most effective manor for the greater success of Our Race as a whole.National Socialism at its best works on a small scale in a town/city setting. But then over time develops into something greater. A NS town could function totally independently and self governing. Ideally self sustaining in regards to basic needs. IE food, shelter, water,protection etc. Then utilize other NS communities for specialty needs or certain skilled trades etc. In the end a larger network could be formed...you are correct though. None of the aforementioned could be possible under the current government zionist stranglehold. What are we to do? A beer hall putsch may be in order.

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              • Fred O'Malley
                I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
                • Apr 2013
                • 173384

                #8
                Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

                Originally posted by Reaper View Post
                But this only promotes social parasites and predators. Chaos promotes the strong to prey on the weak. And the talents and abilities of both are squandered. National Socialism allows all of Our grwat Aryan traits to be utilized in the most effective manor for the greater success of Our Race as a whole.National Socialism at its best works on a small scale in a town/city setting. But then over time develops into something greater. A NS town could function totally independently and self governing. Ideally self sustaining in regards to basic needs. IE food, shelter, water,protection etc. Then utilize other NS communities for specialty needs or certain skilled trades etc. In the end a larger network could be formed...you are correct though. None of the aforementioned could be possible under the current government zionist stranglehold. What are we to do? A beer hall putsch may be in order.
                What you are describing is the Mennonite and Amish societies. Those folks have it down, if you can put up with their brand of bullshit.
                Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
                Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
                “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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                • Fred O'Malley
                  I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 173384

                  #9
                  Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

                  The Escape From Collectivism


                  by Doug Casey
                  Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
                  Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
                  “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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                  • Reaper
                    Member
                    • May 2017
                    • 43

                    #10
                    Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

                    Ill check into text. Always interested on a good read. Sorry about typos. Re-reading my quoted text. Ha. Maybe this is why menonites/amish societies still fuction so well. And independent from mainstream society.

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                    • Fred O'Malley
                      I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 173384

                      #11
                      Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

                      [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlsbfjaD3w"]As Venezuela Fails Let Us Learn A Hard Lesson about Central Planning and Redistribution[/ame]
                      Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
                      Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
                      “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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                      • Fred O'Malley
                        I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 173384

                        #12
                        Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

                        Socialists Never Learn: California’s Universal Health Care Bill Would Double State’s Budget
                        Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
                        Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
                        “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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                        • Fred O'Malley
                          I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 173384

                          #13
                          Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

                          The 10 Planks Of American Socialism
                          Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
                          Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
                          “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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                          • Fred O'Malley
                            I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 173384

                            #14
                            Re: A Practical Lesson in Applied Socialism

                            G Edward Griffin on Collectivism vs Individualism

                            [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqJrrb1_9XM"]G Edward Griffin on Collectivism vs Individualism[/ame]
                            Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
                            Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
                            “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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                            • Fred O'Malley
                              I AM THE PALE HORSEMAN
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 173384

                              #15
                              Socialist Haven on Brink of Total Collapse

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                              Government is a DISEASE - FREEDOM is the CURE
                              Integrity is doing the right thing when no one else is watching.
                              “Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth — more than ruin, more even than death. Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habits; thought is anarchic and lawless, indifferent to authority, careless of the well-tried wisdom of the ages. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid … Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man.”Bertrand Russell, Why Men Fight

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